The Snell Helmet Standard is Meaningless?

Publisert 26. juli. 2021
Snell-certified motorbike helmets are a hallmark of safety. But last year, something sneaky happened. And it changes everything.

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  • Didnt he already make this video two years ago?

  • What do you think about the Led lights you can put on the back of helmets?

  • excellent as always thanks~

  • What about SHARP testing Ryan? Does SHARP testing mean anything? Is it better than ECE ratings? What is the scoop Ryan?

  • Great video, When is something going to change? It seems so obvious at this point, But brands like Shoei and Arai still get the snell stamp and according to current tests are overbuilt and don't provide the same level of concussion protection etc. If the studies are true and brands like 6D and Bell are really making safer helmets, When are the other companies going to incorporate similar technology? I know Arai's claim to fame is the glancing off thing. And Shoei has made some offroad helmet with similar technology as 6D etc, I love both Shoei and Arai's quality though they're both amazing in that regard. I just don't know what to believe sometimes.

  • Amazing quality! But from what I'm gathering... Snell is actually a great helmet for race cars, protecting your head as you're going to bang it on areas consistent where your harnesses and restraints are going to allow your head to move multiple times while ECE and FIM focus more on the aspects of what a motorcyclist are expecting to have happen in a wreck, and Snell is just trying to stubbornly apply a Race car helmet in a role it isn't fit to work in. At least, that's what I've gathered.

  • Legitimately makes me want to get rid of my Shoei lol

  • I love my Shoei. Made in Japan, made to withstand.

  • Well I wish I knew this before buying my snell helmet lol... What’s your guys opinion on the Sedici Strada 2 helmet? Primo Prestigio design.

  • BRAVO BRAVO 👏 🙌 👍🏻 👌 Even before I start to think about how high standard was the script and research.. The production value was OUTSTANDING!!! JUST OUTSTANDINGLY GOOD!!! I PRAY YOU KEEP BRINGING SUCH JOURNALISTIC GEMS FOR MANY YEARS TO COME!!!

  • The ruroc atlas 3.0 is ECE 22.05, would that still be good, obviously 22.06 is better but I really like that one

  • When i was looking to buy a helmet for my first bike almost 5 years ago i utilized a video you made testing different DOT/Snell requirements. I was infuriated to find out buying my new bike a week ago that the standards have completely changed and SNELL means JACK. Someone needs to hit these people with a liability lawsuit for spreading false information. (Snell not Fort)

  • Royal Enfield Himalyan please

  • Thiefs

  • that ECE test, exactly how it is done. True story.

  • I don't know anybody on NOwine who makes such a high quality videos.

  • Your videos are fucking awesome

  • Snell is very good standard for helmet, but its heavy than the other standard

  • sadly one week later the entire staff of FortNine committed was suicided via strangulation.

  • I love your presentation so much! Makes dry information so much more easily absorbed. :)

  • Or just ride without one. Huge benefit ride yesterday. 100+ bikes. Maybe a dozen helmets.

  • I've only ever used Snell helmets. I always hate it when I have to go and wash the clown make up, but I hate it even more when it's not my fault.

  • Great thinking posting the sources. sNow they have to leave you alone. Haha Thank you for opening some folks eyes with yet another great video!!

  • Fortnine making excellent content, as per usual.

  • RIP Snell

  • FortNine production value > James Cameron

  • Amazing video man

  • NHRA needs to get with it on this. you have to have a snell helmet to drag race. not ece not even fim. its ludicrous.

  • FortNine meets Film Noir

  • Wow!! I’m a new rider and have been trying to figure out the best helmet for myself! Bravo I’m shocked! Thank you for the beautiful video content and the valuable possibly life saving information! It shouldn’t be so hard to figure out who’s peddling snake oil and what’s really safe?

  • The 132 down votes come from Snell employees.

  • So how are helmets from companies like shoei and Arai, they’re snell rated instead of ECE

  • So all of us in America are screwed?

    • Just buy an ECE helmet, the "good" thing about DOT is that it is so shitty that any ECE helmet can pass it without the company having to make any modifications to it to make it legal in the states

  • still loving these informative shorts. keep it up!

  • I love the 50"s film noire feel to this video. Nicely done Ryan! Hard to accept that Snell and DOT can't change and adapt to better and more realistic standards that save their customers. I guess they really don't care about improving, but are hard headed and care more about making money.

  • Oh man! You’re becoming master blaster.

  • Add A helmet Interior and Exterior cleaner Compare Video

  • And the Oscar goes to... FortNine❗👍👍👍😁

    • ''If the name can mean 2 different things, does it mean anything?'' Thats a quote to remember

  • New York Times is a marxist trash bin. lol..

  • You and your quality of production are impeccable please dont stop

  • I never knew this. I regret purchasing a Snell helmet now :(

  • ah yes, few things are more American than resisting the changing times and finding ways to skirt by instead of doing the actual work to improve

  • Now if we could get F9 to do this kind of work on pharmaceutical companies!

  • Making education fun. good job!

  • Fun fact: snell means fast in german

  • Thank you for this. I grew up with the notion that Snell was tip top, and never questioned why. I'll be passing this along to my piers.

  • Snells fishy.

    • Read an article several years ago where an unnamed helmet seller said, "'First we make it Snell, then we make it safe."

  • Fantastic! Thank you!

  • There has to be some kind of regulation or by law of a non profit, certification or regulatory organisation so that if the problem gets solved, or their service becomes redundant, then those running for an working for the organization are 'encouraged' to let go of the power and wealth they derive from being the high priests. After all, we have to expect that, human nature being what it is, people will be tempted to do all sorts of ethical gymnastics to keep what they have. We should consider it a given that these people have the service they do for us as their 'second' priority and the service they do for themselves as the first. And when one has to be compromised, it ain't gonna be the first. We shouldn't even be angry about that reality, we should just accept that it is going to be a reality and structure things to take it into account.

  • I need you to tell me what to buy. I don't need you to tell me what not to buy. PLEASE JUST TELL ME WHICH HELMET TO GET!

  • IF BOTH DOT AND SNELL ARE TRASH WHAT DO I DO THEN!!!!!!

  • If Snell's standard is now bad, I can't wait to see Ryan tear my country's helmet standards a few new ones. (and I truly wish if Ryan sees this, to do it as Savagely as he can. At least far more worst then DOT) At least Snell and DOT shows their requirements to pass their test. My country standards don't even show you what is the passing criteria, just that it involves some impact and puncture test. And they force all suppliers here to send a batch of each shipment coming in to have this destructive test done out of their own pocket if I understand it correctly before it can sold in stores. Said standard is Singapore's PSB SS9:2014. Can hardly find the limit on what values they deemed as safe. Local news website CNA says the test involves "one drop test on the front, back and side of the helmet, a penetration test using a sharp object falling on the helmet, and a chin strap test using a weight pulling on the strap." What I managed to find with regards to SS9:2014 also don't show the test requirements as well. Just impact here and there, no puncture, etc. Basically repeating what the news article says. At least Snell test the helmet by bashing it twice at the same point, and what the limits are. SS9 only does it once, and don't tell you what is the limit. (or if it's out there, its hard AF to find)

  • Snell sales dept: So you have chosen death

  • Stay classy

  • MIPS gang where we at?

  • Can we go back to riding bikes? I mean, it's exciting to see chin strap fasteners tested beyond their limit, the science has value, but the husqvarna video made me leak a wee bit.

  • Literally the highest quality shit on NOwine.

  • 2:59 I crashed that exact way a week ago, dislocated shoulder and some pretty heavy bruising, I also hit my head pretty damn hard, my rf1200 probably saved my life…

  • Could you site your sources for me? This information seems wildly inaccurate and misleading. I’d like to be proven wrong. But doesn’t snell do roll off tests? Penetration tests? Chin bar impact tests? Chin strap, shield retention, and flame tests? That is all taken directly from their website.

  • Good that my country here only allows ECE approved helmets and no Snell ones, makes it easier to buy a helmet without constantly checking what standard it is ^^

    • ''If the name can mean 2 different things, does it mean anything?'' Thats a quote to remember

    • Yeah it's so hard to turn a helmet around and check what sticker it has, takes a whole 5 seconds, such a time saver

  • I didn't want to watch this video because I knew you would provide factual evidence why my ignorant faith in my beautiful Snell helmet is misplaced. And I was right! But truly a bitter truth is better than a sugarcoated lie. Thank you!

  • I don't have a motorcycle but yet I have watched every on of your videos. some of the best content on NOwine.

  • "what is the point of a double standart" :-)

  • Both sides of the Pond’s Engineers need to go back to the drawing board for a more survivable standard!!!!

  • Can’t a helmet have an outer shell toughness standard while allowing an euro compliance within the shell to a person’s head???????

  • So a helmet isn't much better than no helmet. Just hot boxes on our heads making companies rich and us uncomfortable.

  • self-preservation is any institutions first and most important goal.

  • well shit, thats 200 down the drain...

  • That's just dirty of Snell. That certification should be pulled off from motorcycle helmets world wide. Sounds like they make a great race car helmet. The certification should stick to what it's good at. Then again who would trust them after knowing this.

  • I just look for the dot. That's how you know the sentence is over

  • The Wall era touch to this is just a sublime choice guys. Thanks again for “another one!” The quickest subscribe click I’ve ever done.

  • My scorpion helmet is snell and dot approved

  • Lots of goo

  • Every single rider should watch this guys channel. Lol I would love to be in the meeting when Snell official discuss this video

  • Can you please make a video on which is the best helmet rating: • ISI - Indian Standards Institute • CRASH - Australia, Consumer rating & assesment of saftey helmet • DOT - America, department of transportation • ECE22.05 - Europe, economic commission for Europe • SHARP - UK, saftey helmet assessment & rating programme • SNELL - International, Willian pete Snell, 1956 • FIM - International, Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme Because I'm now confused, I thought SNELL was the ideal rating for people riding on roads and FIM for racers.... (´-﹏-`;)

  • Such epic videos

  • Yupp, kinda' confirmed what I've thought myself for a while. While the current ECE-regulation in Europe works, it could do better, but it's still better in itself that DOT/Snell... Thanks@Fortnine for bringing this into the light!

    • nowine.info/loft/b4mma6zFaL6sYZg/video Lord have mercy on the enemies of safe helmets, because Ryan sure won’t.

  • Thank you Ryan.

  • This is why I buy ECE. Best channel on NOwine by the way

  • All the 125 snell supporters who dislike the video

  • I've been saying the same thing about football helmets. They need to soften the outside so they absorb the impact instead of transmitting it to the head. And finally, none of this matters of your state doesn't require a helmet and you don't wear one.

  • What a great video. Keep up the good work.

  • They could have been better off creating separate Snell-Car and Snell-Bike standards but no, Americans love to hit their heads against a wall... TWICE!

  • This is truly exceptional. The content, the style, the cinematography. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • glad i bought an ece helmet

  • Looks like Snell should just go back to insuring racecar helmets. I don't trust Snell anyways.

  • Thank you for your nationalistic stereotypes of American and French testers. Though I know French men do not actually run around in striped shirts and berets, I still like to think so. Wee wee!!

  • Just found this channel after seeing the “How Harley Killed Itself” vid; and I love everything so far. Production is top-notch, presenter is great, info is interesting and informative. Most disturbing image so far: the black-and-white peach hitting the counter😥

  • it would be pretty interesting if you did Saddles because after watching this I was kinda wondering.

  • Here I am watching a comparison between Snell and ECE helmets when I can only wear DOT approved helmets due to my big head. Manufacturer can't seem to make larger helmets that are approved by Snell or ECE.

  • Good to know, thanks for the heads up!

  • Indian officials watching this: "Phew, we have ISI helmets. And all others are banned" 😑🙄

    • This channel is one of the best in automotive space! Delivering useful information in the most creative and artistic way imaginable. I can only hope to get to close to this level some day!

  • How did you get that beautiful paper texture effect at 2:45? 🤩

  • I’m glad I watched this video and you are exactly correct Ryan! I just finished the riding academy at our local Harley Davidson and in the class they gave us a little Snell flyer that basically showed a graphic putting Snell’s standard way up and above what the ECE standard is. So Snell is still trying to trash on the European standards to keep those helmets out of our market here in the US and they’re doing it by targeting the least informed crowd of riders out there. Newbies like myself! I will be looking for an ece helmet for sure. Thanks for the great content!

  • if you want safe helmet buy: 1. FIM standard or 2. ECE R22.06

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  • Mind blowing! Great analysis !

  • Great work yet again.

  • So what about helmets that have them all? My Arai has ECE, SNELL, DOT and the Australian standard…….?

  • So should I throw out my RF SR and tell my sister to trash her Defiant X?