Which Motorcycle Manufacturer is Best? [Laboratory Test]

Publisert 14. mars. 2021
In today’s episode of Pissing Off Motorcycle Manufacturers, we’ve decided to go ahead and lab test every big brand’s manufacturing hygiene under their very noses. The results might surprise you.


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  • Well, as a brazilian with pretty much only shit quality fuel availible, I have to ruminate the fact that usually european brands are quite "fragile" when it comes to sturdiness. You use an impure fuel or oil in them and the engine is gone. That said, you could say that brands that accept more impure oils and fuels, are more robust. So I would say that Triumph might be the sweet spot, since their build quality is over the roof and oil purity is good, but not that picky.

  • So if you buy a Hardly-Davidson, you could buy 6 Chinese bikes of the same quality. Amazing.

  • I am curious why among the >5, >15, >50, and >100 data samples, why the final ranking is done using the >5 micrometer data? Yamaha is the lowest on >15, >50, and >100 table. I feel it didn't receive the proper credit.

  • Chinese use lead but still a mess

  • Royal Enfield for the win!

  • What an awesome surprise! I'm actually in the market for a Royal Enfield Himalayan right now.. I felt like it's quality is pretty good and I know RE is trying to reinvent itself with quality being a priority. It's great to see they're really making strides in this and are a true contender

  • A North Korean prison factory? So.....a North Korean factory?

    • I never expected Royal Enfield to top this list. Genuinely surprised. I know it’s within margin of error. But it’s still the top.

  • So buy the bike you want, run until hot then change oil. Then put in fresh oil for break in.

  • Don't the results reflect on the quality of the filtration being used by the manufacturers, as much as the quality of the assembly?

  • Interesting that ducati is owned by audi and thay are normaly get a meltdown if something dose not meet vda or ppap requirements :D

    • Germany: "We're within .5 microns of tolerance." U.S.- " Do you mean inches?" Italy~"our tolerances create themselves."

  • A little rubbed that Indian didn't make it into this.

  • Isn't this just an OE oil filter test?

  • Did you also test the quality of the factory oil filters that were replaced at the first change? How many kilometers were driven during all the oil changes? Did all the motorcycles travel the same number of kilometers on the first change? At how many revolutions per minute did the individual motorcycles ride? Don’t you think this are also an important factors that could lead to different findings? Thanks for the answers and best regards. Keep up the great work! "It's not science if you cannot question it :)"

  • Polen one morning be like 4:50 lul

  • Damn, I'm late. Do you have a volume based (Q3) histogram or distribution density diagram of your findings? The sample size of your samples should be more than enough with 100 ml oil if taken properly.

  • Yo Bro, i Got a brand 2019 CB1000-R 😎 i bought four 4 Liter containers of Castrol Actevo 10w30 with Honda OEM filers for first 10,000 Miles. After that I have eight 4 liter Containers of Motul 7100 4T 10w40 with K&N 204 filters 😎 i already had original coolant flushed & replaced with Engine ice. I baby My dear Honda Gem.

  • oooh great idea they should have a chinsese bike only endurnce grand pri to the death ( of the bikes of course) i would pay money to see that come on it would make great fun veiwing

  • Irellevant for me!! I love ducati multistrada but i don't have enough money to buy one so i ride an kawasaki versys.

    • In India, during a school examination, students, as a last resort to score a few more points, will try to ensure the utmost neat hand writing in their exam papers. Its called "getting extra marks for neat handwriting". That is Royal Enfield on their best behavior for the new foreign market 😆🍻

  • That's what she said... hahahahaha, man you make these videos hilarious.

  • I'd honestly love to see your take/ride/review on the amazon sold Chinese made sport bikes

  • *laughs riding his Vespa Elettrica*

  • abbbbb, that's break in oil. it's supposed to have stuff in it. everybody knows you change a new motors oil within the first couple of hundred miles or so. that's why my Suzukis last a lifetime!

  • Thank You for making great videos and not asking us to like and subscribe.

    • I never expected Royal Enfield to top this list. Genuinely surprised. I know it’s within margin of error. But it’s still the top.

  • Surprised that the Japanese brands didnt do better. Especially Honda and Yamaha.

  • You should of included Zongshen the biggest motorcycle parts distributor. And now Zongshen is making their own motorcycle. CSC and Zongshen are teaming up and is offering ISO certified motorcycle.

    • @Sherri T[A]P Me!! To Have [S]EX With Me Most Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Harley, and other motorcycle parts are exclusively made by Zongshen but American's still has a distrust in Chinese motorcycles. My dad had a Royal Enfield in Vietnam at the same time he had the Honda Cub with a CG125 cc honda engine. The Enfield out lasted the Honda but the down side is that the parts are 10% more expensive which means nothing. Honda parts are cheap enough where 10% up-charge for enfield parts is doable for us poor peasants.

    • Because of this I will now put Royal Enfield on my list to buy motorcycles before I reach 50.

  • Everybody knows Honda is the best overall along with their twin brother Yamaha, no contest. BMW is a close second but it's price, and cost of maintenance kicks it down to second.

    • @Rose 25 y.o - check my vidéó the real question is do they maintain that level of proficiency day--in and day-out, or was this one made on a Tuesday. The Japanese are king in these terms

    • I never expected Royal Enfield to top this list. Genuinely surprised. I know it’s within margin of error. But it’s still the top.

  • My rotax Aprilia don't count right ? Don't count right? 😢

  • Too bad you didn't compare Moto Guzzi!

    • Let's give a quick shoutout to Anonymous Scientist. If you know, you know.

  • Excellent video! This just put Royal Enfield on my radar.

  • Royal Enfield is nothing but trouble. Run as far as you can from them, preferably with a good old Honda. Listen to me here. Peace!

  • Bring back flushing oils. It was used for exactly this reason!

  • Oh, Aprilia, why, WHY? 😭

  • RE at first 😂😂 not in India, Here It's YAMAHA and Honda Indian manufacturers also like Hero and TVS for big games

  • You should have seen the oil coming out of my Duke 390 after break in... Or the junk that was stuck in the oil screen. Meanwhile my Aprilia has 27700 miles and still going strong, although the first oil change was indeed quite dirty as well.

  • I'm half way into this and already laughing so hard I can't see my computer screen. This analysis is excellent and informative. FortNine is my SUPER HERO!!!!

    • nowine.info/loft/b4mma6zFaL6sYZg/video Having just bought a Royal Enfield Himalayan, I am glad to see they’re sitting right there at the top.

    • Yep brought tears to my eyes 2, specially the japanese choice in herpies, so thats me for life...

  • Whether an engine is water cooled or air/oil cooled probably plays a huge role in this since different engines runs at different temperatures. If you got a sample from a liquid cooled ducati, it would probably have less crap in it than a harley engine.

  • What about Zontes? Do they even sell those in Canada?

  • Nice comparision. Im Triumph owner not too bad not too happy :)

    • nowine.info/loft/b4mma6zFaL6sYZg/video Germany: "We're within .5 microns of tolerance." U.S.- " Do you mean inches?" Italy~"our tolerances create themselves."

  • OMG! Royal enfield at the top?!

  • Japan build the best motorcycle! Amen! 🙏

  • Hmmmm I’m thinking the company is ram

  • Consumer Reports did a 4 year study of motorcycle reliability. Yamaha is at the top but all of the Japanese bikes tower over the rest of the world in reliability. Harley Davidson comes in at 5th position well ahead of Triumph, Ducati and BMW (Way to go HD!). On average it cost more than twice as much to get a European bike fixed than a Japanese bike. KTM, Royal Enfield and Indian didn't make the list because the sampling was to small. I suspect KTM and RE would rank below BMW and Indian would be close to HD. You have to pay to see the report.

  • Imagine the poor guy who bought the Chinese bike after watching this

    • Go Royal Enfield. I remember these bikes when they were the pits. Amazing what a dedicated and concerned manufacturer can do. I take my hat off to you guys.

  • thanks god i love my yamaha slowpeds than my ex.

  • Does this mean that it’s assembled dirty, and you’re clean after an oil change or two? Or, is it indicating that the oil will continue to be dirty due to crap material composition, etc.? Big difference.

    • nowine.info/loft/fIWJbIzca52ymaQ/video In India, during a school examination, students, as a last resort to score a few more points, will try to ensure the utmost neat hand writing in their exam papers. Its called "getting extra marks for neat handwriting". That is Royal Enfield on their best behavior for the new foreign market 😆🍻

  • I just bought an Italian, a Guzzi. So I'm smoked;)

    • Lol this is so true, my mt03's oil is still orangey brown when seen through the engine oil level glass after a month of usage. Meanwhile my friend's chinese zongshen 250 looks as black as a tarpit.

  • In the lean video you made the case for counterbalancing. But on the Royal Enfield footage you were leaning. ( 5:57 ) I feel lied to. 🤨

  • I have to wonder about the BMW engines which are made in China

  • Surprised to see Suzuki not at the top of the list, from an engine durability point of view, they are legend.

  • That Royal Enfield footage is in Seattle. Once Covid blows over please come back and do a meet and greet. I live 30 miles south of Seattle and I'm a filmmaker. If ever you need camera or sound in Washington state hit me up and I'll be there.

  • Engine not motor

  • Great way to objectively evaluate engine status. This method among others evaluate aircraft engines and TBO

  • Remember made in Japan meant crap in the 60’s-70’s. Now everything is made in China otherwise nothing for the middle class to purchase. China also flys to to moon and Mars. They are making a tidal wave of electric vehicles like BYD, Nio, xpeng, etc. I am sure they make some good stuff if the owner wants less of a profit. Great video. Royal Enfield makes good looking bikes at unbeatable msrp’s. ER still able to build quality engines at that profit margin.

  • We need Moto Guzzi to appear in this test.

  • Cheating like Russia? You are brain washed by Hollywood! What do you know? “Highly likely” stories? Dirty nationalist!

  • Yeah, sounds nice, but: what are the motorcycles chosen? Brand new? What about the lapping? The oil quality/brand used. The way they are used. That shows nothing useful. Today every established company make good motorcycles, some models of them have conception problems, like the first BMW S1000R, the first MV Agusta F800 and a lot more. So for me, there is a law: never buy a brand new model, always wait 2 years, at least. One thing more, you just can't compare so different engines, with so huge differences in the way it delivers power. En enfield interceptor don't waste itself so fast than an Aprilia RSV4? Well I hope so...

  • The Ducati microscope result looks a lot like european continent and Russia 😂

  • Sometimes a cliché is a cliché for a reason

  • While RE is considered a rough and tough bike here in India, this comes as a bit of a surprise to me. Some Indian brands outperform even RE when it's comes to reliability. I wonder how they would perform if they decide to come out with 600cc class bikes.

    • I'm Italian and i live 20kms away from Ducati factory. There's a saying in italian that goes like this: 'Ducati, soldi buttati'. Which, roughly translated means 'Ducati, wasted money'.

  • Great video.

  • That answer is any EV bike manufacturer. Energica as first! Again a great video to show you should just bin ICE. For records. Was is an ISO or NAS class test

  • Of course its on top, its a Himalayan ffs !! 🙄😂

  • 3 hour liquid lunch, bahahahaha. Very true.

  • There’s so much more to a motorcycle than the oil analysis, many other systems and parts, that’s where the overall quality stands.

  • one could say, royal enfields engines are some of the worst built ones from this video. this proves nothing.

  • I like my Versys 650.

  • A recent 50.000 kms test on Ducati Multistrada 950 (done by a prestigious magazine & published in internet) has revealed that this bike has offered the best rreliability results ever seen

  • The Royal Enfield 650 first oil change is performed at 500 km. Might that explain why it's so clean? Don't get me wrong. The engine is indeed tight. I put 7500 km on my 650 after the first oil change, and the oil still looks mint.

  • what a shitty comparison)

  • that's what she said

  • I'm not an expert but I think the results of this test would also depends by the riding habits of the drivers. I mean, you aren't supposed to ride a Ducati as you ride a RE or a BMW. Is very much possible the Ducatists push the engine in revving places where the REists aren't...

  • What do you have a degree in? Serious question.

  • Do the oil filters have a role to play here?

  • Thanks, Anonymous (or Anon Miss Lab Tech). Great video, Ryan!

  • Just wondering: we’re they all using similar oil filters during initial use; would it make a difference?

    • nowine.info/loft/fIWJbIzca52ymaQ/video Having just bought a Royal Enfield Himalayan, I am glad to see they’re sitting right there at the top.

  • After seeing the build quality of Royal Enfields, i am surprised they are clean

  • That's made in China that's why .....

    • Go Royal Enfield. I remember these bikes when they were the pits. Amazing what a dedicated and concerned manufacturer can do. I take my hat off to you guys.

  • having owned 5 of these bike builders from new .. even a lexmoto cheep cheep Chinese scooter .. while running in , i always dump the oil after 500km myself , leave the filter . just oil . only ever put in normal no fancy synthetic for this in-between oil change . my Chinese never let me down and my Ducati is ten years old no problem ... as always some of the best content on youtube thank you

  • Engine not motor

  • tfw harley sucks

  • First service oil, surely you’d expect particulates to decrease after the run in. I’d be more interested in the second service results and confirmation that all the bikes in question either have or don’t have a magnetic sump plug.

  • pretty sure they don't serve mustard in north korean prison factory my dude... wat?

  • Half the bikes in the world are now made in China unfortunately. This includes BMWs and triumphs. Hope their quality control is better. It’s a concern.

  • Do we know if changing the oil and filter at low mileage, say after 50 break in miles clears out most of the junk?

  • Single greatest bike related video

  • Well done, Royal Enfield!

  • As a Russian I'd like to thank you for [1:37]

  • Time to get your royal Enfield's quickly before they screw it up!

  • I'd have expected to see Honda top of the Japanese, and Kawasaki bottom. Seems that's completely opposite.

  • Thank you champ Ryan and your contacts for the info

  • Was never a fan of Italian bikes, but surprised their engines are so dirty... BMW and KTM may have superb mechanical engineering, but they f_ up the electronics by over engineering. I've a KTM which has trouble starting at anywhere below +15C. I kid you not. So much for having a computer control the engine. Gets incredible MPG for a 900cc though

  • Interesting but a bit pointless it would only make sense with a large sample of similar engines and still it only tells you how clean the factory is not how long you bike will last the engineering is more important for that.microscopic particles are most likely not why you engine failed,lack of maintenance and poor engine design are more a factor. as they showed those are getting flush out with the oil,and most are to small to cause damage.do you really think your Royal Enfield is going to out last your Honda?

  • Crap so glad I remembered not to try eating or drinking when watching, Tighter than a nuns knees and here for life like herpes. you are comedy gold Thank you I needed a good laugh today

  • Now i know. Why my. Chinese bike require monthly change oil

  • I have a problem with this test. The manufacture date of each bike is not present. If they aren't of similar year - the standards will not be the same as many manufacturers tighten things up as technology progresses - rendering this test - barely useful.

  • The Harley motor was very good for the 1950s, when it was designed.

  • Bullshit test

  • Im not a fan of Chinese motorcycles HOWEVER how old is the engine oil? Most people I know with those China bikes they are brand new still. If the oil came from a new engine its going to be just as dirty as any other engine oil from a brand new engine. Also there is so many different designs of makes and models it has a lot to do with the type of engine and the oil filtering system or also quality of the filter if it even has one. My CB 250 gets oil dirty fast because it has no replaceable cartridge filter just a mesh screen.

  • "Made in China" lost? I'm shocked

    • nowine.info/loft/a21njnKTadpxfWE/video I know my Royal Enfield Himalayan was spectacular. ;) I did trade it in on a sailboat recently though. ..

  • "Europe is not a waste of money" 6:28 , Italy isn't in Europe so